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From: Patrick Fizet <patrick.fizet@yahoo.com>
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ATTENTION, je ne suis pas du tout associ=C3=A9 =C3=A0 ces questions mais su=
rpris, la soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9 7 Lieux agit-elle en aussi en tant que soci=C3=
=A9t=C3=A9 de conseil en mati=C3=A8re de management ? Cela ne d=C3=A9passer=
ait pas par hasard les raisons pour laquelle nous vous avons retenues ? Ave=
z-vous le droit de concurrencer les avocats en droit du travail ?Et puis co=
mment faites-vous pour anticiper des choix tr=C3=A8s politiques qui ne manq=
uent jamais de survenir en p=C3=A9riode =C3=A9lectorale ? Mais sur ce point=
 je ne vous sens pas devin, seulement accompagnateur !N=C3=A9anmoins, ne vo=
us privez surtout pas de livrer vos r=C3=A9ponses, je l'esp=C3=A8re sans ch=
arlatanisme, elles =C3=A9clairciront peut-=C3=AAtre ma lanterne qui s'=C3=
=A9teint peu =C3=A0 peu !
Patrick Fizet


      De=C2=A0: CineRural-60 <CineRural-60@Orange.fr>
 =C3=80=C2=A0: lucarnold@7lieux.org=20
Cc=C2=A0: csimone@cs-consultance.com; philippe.vinchent@gmail.com; Patrick =
Fizet <patrick.fizet@yahoo.com>
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avance, bien cordialement, =C2=A0C=C3=A9dric FizetCin=C3=A9 Rural 6003 44 4=
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